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So, welcome to this information session regarding the application for the San Francisco monuments and memorials advisory committee. This advisory committee isn't an initiative based on a mayoral directive that for the arts commission recreation and parks department, and the.
Human Rights Commission to work with the community to evaluate the history and impact of the public art within our civic art collection. So, in order to do this, what we're doing is we're bringing together a group of individuals from different backgrounds, experiences and expertise to serve on an advisory committee that will establish the.
Criteria and guidelines on how to assess what we have in our in our public art collection. 1, important thing is that we want to note is that this advisory group will not be making decisions on the removal or creation of current and future monuments. Really? Looking at the establishment of the criteria that will help us.
To do so in the feature. So after the, the group is formed, there are there will be a series of meetings, particularly public meetings where we can get community feedback. So that's another opportunity where the public will be able to provide input into this process. And so, for now, we're focusing specifically on the application.
To the advisory committee, so I'd like to pass it on to my colleague, Alison Cummings from our art collection to share more information and the details of the scope of work. Allison.
Thank you, Sandra. Let's go ahead and go to the next slide.
Good afternoon everyone my name is Allison. Cummings. I'm the senior registrar for the civic art collection. I helped manage San Francisco's public art collection bit of background about the collection. Our earliest San Francisco's earliest art policies date back to the establishment of the arts Commission under the 1932 city.
Charter the charter gave the commission jurisdiction over all of the art belonging to the city on city property, and charge the agency with the preservation and care of the artwork in the civic art collection. You can see a lot of fountain there on the. Right. That is the 1st, earliest piece in the collection from.
1875, and there are about 4000 pieces in the collection. We have a broad, diverse collection 1 of the largest in the country for public art and we've got a broad range of media. We've got, of course, as, you know, large scale, public, monuments era. Murals are.
Contemporary 2% for our commissions and installations tech, based artworks paintings works on paper photographs, ceramics, textiles and jewelry. It is a broad and diverse and large collection for municipality. We have approximately 98 monuments in memorials and that's going to be the focus of this group. We.
To define a monument and memorial for the purposes of this review, as artworks that were created with the intent of honoring either a person or an event this working list is a working list but it's listed on our website and there is a link listed in our monuments and memorials on our website and I'm going to show you.
Shortly where those links live next slide.
Okay, so in in the really small type screen, you can see on the left is our on my left. Your proper left is the front page of our website, the lower center part of the front page has a black box, and that's where we are keeping all of our information about this process. The evaluation.
Um, if you click on the link in the black box, it'll bring up the landing page, which is on the right the monuments and memorials application information, and basically a 1 stop shop for information that will be updated as we move through this process over the intervening months lower part of that image.
There is a link to a cover memo, which has more information about the process and our directive from a scope of work document. That is goes into great detail about what we anticipate to be the process of this review. A monuments and memorials advisor committee are frequently asked questions.
Document which is continually updated with new information, and then a link to the application, which is what we're talking about today and yeah. That's where that all will live and we'll be updated. Go ahead. And next slide.
Okay, nice and text heavy get into the meat of it. So, I'm going to talk a little bit about the scope of work that we anticipate for this process. And for the advisory committee 1st off I'd like to mention that staff has looked at pretty extensively the processes that have been undertaken by other.
Municipalities across the countries, you know, this is a national issue and a national movement, and we wanted to take a look at what other cities were doing. The most extensive process that we've found came out of New York City back in January 2018. they put together a report and an.
Committee somewhat similar to what we're doing here. The difference is that the new York's process was and important, and I'll appointed committee and you'll see San Francisco unique in an effort to dive, deep into community engagement. We've opened up an application process, which we're talking about today and.
Take undertaking an open call for advisors as a function of this process. The document that's on the website, which is a deep dive into this process. It's a 4 page document. I recommend looking at it as a part of working on your application. It'll go into much more detail about what I'm about to talk about.
It's also a working document, we anticipate there will be changes as we move through this process as a committee is appointed and people start to take ownership of of this work. Okay. So, into the nitty gritty, we anticipate this body is going to host hearings with the community to establish the.
Criteria and guidelines by which to determine the future of monuments and memorials in the collection as Sandra mentioned a moment ago, this community will not be making decisions about individual works in the collection, but they will be establishing the guidelines by which we will make future decisions. It will be the.
Monuments and more emails committee, and I'm going to because it's a little bit of a tongue twister I'm going to refer to as the, and then see if that's okay with everyone I see. Will be conducting an open public process. They're going to be convening hearings center, community voices with a diversity of expertise and lived experience.
Goal here is to ensure a robust public process and insure equitable community engagement. So, based on the criteria that the will come up with the arts Commission, the arts commission will determine the final disposition of the monuments and memorials in the collection. We anticipate that the seats on the.
Will be filled by community members, selected, based on a range of knowledge and experience, including that of us history centered on black, indigenous people of color by PoC communities, San Francisco, history, history, historic preservation, public art, deep experience and knowledge of histories.
Art and cultural issues, and racial justice and reparation and at the top of the slide there, you'll see essentially the advisory committees charge develop and recommend San Francisco guidelines and criteria for evaluating existing monuments and memorials on public property create a recommendation.
Report and plan for handling the city's historic monuments the advisory committee Co chairs will be the advisory committee will be Co, chaired by 3 people. This is going to be the director of cultural affairs. The general manager for the San Francisco recreation and park department, and the executive director of the.
Francisco human rights commission the committee we anticipate will be approximately 11 to 15 individuals, including the CO chairs again. It's a fluid number. We were looking for the right composition for the group and it's a combination of appointed seats and approved applicants the expectations of the committee. We.
The advisory committee members to likely put in a time commitment of approximately 40 hours over the course of 4 months. This is subject to change since we cannot anticipate the nature depth the duration of the committees conversations, or engagement with the community. And we want to be open to that currently a stipend of 500 dollars.
Will be provided to the advisory committee members as allowed to help compensate for the time commitment. Okay. And then the rough structure that we have laid out so far for the committee that we anticipate a number of meetings, the 1st, of which, and again, this is a deep dive into this process is laid out in this.
Document on website, the 1st meeting, we would anticipate a committee orientation and review of proposed criteria and the monuments list at this meeting the committee will determine and agree to an overarching guiding principle or guiding principles that will govern the evaluation process moving forward. 2nd meeting.
We can anticipate finalizing and adopting this draft criteria for the evaluation of the monuments in the collection. Then the committee will embark on a public engagement process. We anticipate a likely a minimum of 3 meetings. At this point. We are also.
Getting these meetings to be virtual as, you know, with the pandemic, we're kind of in an ever changing landscape and as we move through this process, we were open to a number of possibilities here. But at this point, we anticipate it being virtual. So, the public engagement effort will be established in order to maximize.
The participation of all interested part, interested in parties. We want to hear and get deep response from community. There will be opportunities for public comment at meetings and the arts commission will also collect written feedback for those who wish to submit written statements an outline survey may or excuse me an online survey may also be really.
For future public engagement for further public engagement, and it will be collected concurrent to the public process. So, there will be as a function of this process, a number of opportunities for a public to weigh in on the criteria as well as the other important effects of monuments and memorials in their community after that.
We anticipate reviewing these public comments and adopting the final criteria. We would be applying the information that comes out of the public process to help prioritize and evaluate perhaps a subset of monuments from the existing list as a case study and then finally applying the evaluation.
2 identified monuments for final final recommendations report. This final report will include the criteria recommendations, and potentially case studies and this report will be released after the final meeting. So that's a lot. And this is deep, deep work deep important.
Work and so, again, I recommend taking a look at that scope document the memo on our website as well for more information. And also, if you want to take a look at other cities, final reports, I can recommend the advisory commission report from New York.
That is on their cultural affairs website, and I'm happy to send out a link to anyone who'd be interested in that as well and to take a look a little bit more in depth at the application itself. I'm going to turn it over to my colleague, Majid. Awesome. Take it away.
Much Alison. I, everybody, I'm office, I'm a community impact analyst with the San Francisco arts commission. If we can go to the next slide. Please, thank you. Kindly. So, as you'll see, here, this is the link to the application. This is also linked in the web pages. That Alison referenced earlier, if you do want to go on and take a look.
As if dot net slash 100, if you wanted that individually, or you could access it through the, the sort of the particular sort of application, the particular sort of links that Alison mentioned and the deadline here, as you'll see as March. 1st at 1159 PM Pacific.
Um, so we really want to emphasize that that's approximately 2 weeks from now and so, hopefully that should be that should be enough time for folks to do the application, because it's fairly simple. And it looks a little bit like this. If we can go to the next slide, please Thank you so much. So, 1st, you'll see here standard information here about location.
And that sort of thing, and sort of address and basic basic information. And then this question here at the bottom is sort of the 1st, 1 around motivation in terms of explaining why you were applying to be a member of the advisory committee. And in your response. We're interested in understanding whether or not you have any particular kinds of possibilities or relationships.
To any of these ideas, right? In sort of in relation to historical monuments and modules your personal relationship to them, how you think about, or engage with them and how you're or and or how your community has been impacted or affected by them and any other relevant personal background. And this is a 300 word limit, and I just want to acknowledge that there's some really important and.
Questions in the chat, just please bear in mind that we will be waiting until the end, but feel free to populate questions as they show up and we will collect them all at the end and make sure to address them. Right. So then just again to emphasize this question here, this is the 1st question. It's a motivation question. It's a 300 word limit and it's really interested about a person's personal experience and.
Relationship to the possibility of these monuments, whether through their own experience, or through particular communities that they might be connected to if we can go to the next slide. Please Thank you. So, we have a couple of different things happening then the next sort of bit is on this left hand side, you'll see a list of tickets.
Boxes, um, and it is essentially what we're asking is for the applicant to complete the following sentences in relation to the, to the responses that apply to them. So we have put this in broken out into 3 sections. We're interested in folks who have deep knowledge of a particular area folks who have a strong connection to a particular community, or.
Organization and folks who have a high level of skill and or experience in any of the areas that are listed. So, just to be clear. This is not a, this is not sort of like, okay, if 1 person can only check 1 thing, or they can check all of them. It's not about necessarily that what we want to do is we want.
To be able to capture as many all of this sort of happening across the composition of of the advisory committee as a whole. So, you'll notice under deep knowledge of we're looking at notions of aesthetic critique art, history, public art, the history of California, the history of San Francisco, the intersection of Fine Arts and racial justice that's sort of in the knowledge.
Sort of section of things, under strong connection. We're looking at things such as an arts connection to an Archer cultural organization, or 1 of San Francisco, cultural districts and then a variety of arts communities in San Francisco, the American Indian community bipap arts communities, the black DS for arts community lot next communities.
Those are some of the ones that we've broken out and then also we're wondering, and looking for folks who have high level of skill and or experience in a number of areas at 1 at the intersection of Arts and racial justice, advocacy, historic preservation neighborhood beautification, racial justice philanthropy and the San Francisco tourism sector so.
That's sort of what's happening on the left hand side, in terms of particulars, particular sort of statements there, and folks who just take as many as are applicable to them on the right hand side you know, after having completed those check boxes we are then interested in trying to understand the way in which those particular knowledge sets connections, skills, experiences and any.
Affiliations that are connected to any of those have prepared the applicant to be a collaborative and contributing member of the advisory committee. Again. We're really interested here in sort of the overall composition of the overall composition of the particular committee in relation to these specific areas. And making sure that we have these areas covered. So, for instance, we can imagine a.
Patient in, which somebody might be able to have 1 or more of these figured, but we can also imagine a situation where somebody might be really strong in 1 area and that will all be taken into account in composing the committee. There's then after this, an app, an option for folks to upload a resume or CV and support their application, that would be no more than 3 pages.
Please note that the system will only accept doc doc X or PDF formats, and that this question is optional. So you do not necessarily have to submit it if you do not wish to. And then the last thing here is just to sort of simple. Yes. Or no question that reiterate some of the points that Alison raised earlier, which is that we anticipate that the advisory committee will.
Require from each member, approximately 40 hours of work over a 4 month, period, um, which includes meeting attendance and our anticipated start for this is around April of this year. And of course, these details are subject to change. And so we just want to make sure that along with the, with the sort of stipend that we are able to offer that is.
Something that folks who are applying are able to commit to preparing for attending and participating in. That's it. That's the application. So it's not particularly onerous. It's not sort of, you know, there's only 2, 300 word statements, and the possibility of a resume CV, and then checking off these, these boxes and particular personal.
Information around contact and things like that. So, with that, I'm going to pass it on to my colleague, Susan who's going to talk a little bit more about the selection process Susan.
Yes, thank you. Awesome. So, as it's my colleague, Allison, and also have have explained, we're looking for experience and relationships in a variety of.
Areas the goal here is to select a group of people that represent all of these areas and have a balanced and sort of comprehensive collections of perspectives and experience. So that.
The 1st, sort of wrap pound would be to, to review the applicants to checking off what the various skills and and relationships are. And then to develop a proposed group of of individuals who.
Kind of complete this comprehensive panel of people and that group that alternates will be forwarded to the 3 Co chairs of the committee and those Co chairs will be making the final decision.
And so, what would we be looking at and looking at the applicants will be again? I think, as as also says we're looking, whether or not the applicant's response illustrates a serious interest in an understanding of the charge of the it may see. So, in other words, people who.
We have had an ongoing, maybe have been following this issue nationally for a period of time have been engaged in that conversation. Understand what their charges in and fulfilling this duty do.
Does their response supply, relevant personal background that supports their interest again? You know, we should address in your application how you, you came to this interest how, how you personally, or your community has been affected by some of the.
Comments and their, their implications and how does the applicant's response qualitatively support their self select acknowledge sets. So again listing who your affiliations are, your connections, your skills.
Uh, I think it's relevant if you have participated with other kinds of community groups, engaged in making decisions of 1 type or another, how does the africa's response express interest in our, and, or experience with.
Collaborating this collaborative decision making bear in mind. This is a process by which you will be serving with other people who have different backgrounds, different experience, different points of view that you're going to have to work collaboratively.
With listen to each other as well as listen to the community and then kind of come together and come up with a product to come up with these qualifications. So I would encourage if you've had experience doing that in the past with, in any kind of capacity.
Encourage you to, to make that note in your in your application. So that's I'm sure There'll be questions about that, but that's basically the outline. And then I think the final information that we have is that we will be.
I just we just want to let people know is the, we are hiring a consultant to help us with this work. This is, of course, work that's on top of our normal staff duties that.
Uh, will be posted soon and we encourage anybody to who's who's interested or know somebody who's interested to apply for this position because we desperately need some help coordinating all of this work of the.
Committee and supporting the work of the committee advertising, these, the public meetings to the broader community, and taking the minutes and finally drafting the final final report. So I think that concludes my portion.
I hand it back to.
Um, I believe we are almost ready to do the Q and a so I'm just collecting, uh, these, these sort of notes and conversations from folks that are happening in the chat. Thanks to everybody who offer their their presentation just to reminder.
Here on the left, let me just read this out this slide before we get into the Q and a, again. If you do have questions as folks have been doing, please identify if they're around content of the presentation. Please put my name ahead of the question. And then if you have any technical issues that are popping up, make sure to put alyssa's name ahead of that, we will do our best to get to all of these questions.
Um, we have a bit of time, and we've allocated and set that set that aside that we're gonna get into in just a moment. Um, and again, if some of these questions aren't answered, and you do have other things that pop up after we've completed this webinar, you can go to dash info at s. F. Gov. Dot org. You can send an email there. Um, and that's where we will be kind of collecting more questions and adding them to the.
And we ask questions document that is on our website, and again there's the link to the application and again, the deadline for it is March 1st at 1159 PM. Cool? So, I've started to sort of categorize a few of these questions, and I wanted to kind of get to them in a 2nd. I would appreciate folks, you know, just like, you know, we will, thank.
For the folks who were offering their kind of positions and perspectives on this, we really want to make sure that this is we will be giving you the information here in this context. So please make sure that we're paying attention to kind of what is happening in. And what's being discussed? So, what I'd like to start with is there are some questions here around the selection process right? So, something that's been asked here from Dana.
The top is what is the ratio of appointed to approved applicants and so this is maybe a question for Susan or Allison.
Yes, the correct me, Allison, if I'm wrong the point the appointed members are, of course, the 3 Co Co chairs from the 3 city.
Apartments that the mayor has directed to collaborate on this and a member of each of their commissions. So it's those 6 members, the directors of the 3 agencies, and a representative from each of the 3 agencies.
Commissions.
Thanks, Susan. Alison did you have anything to add to that? For.
We get that same.
Thing yeah. Okay. Great. We then have a few questions about the application itself. So we're wondering 1st on some of this is also slightly related to the selection process. So I'm wondering about whether or not applicants need to reside and.
Francisco in order to be on this particular advisory committee, that's 1 question. And then a 2nd question is sort of, what do we mean by strong connection to community or to a particular arts and culture organization and that was particularly asked in relation to whether somebody is an individual member of a community.
Or if they maybe have done a lot of work, a lot of advocacy work with a particular community, how would that show up, or not show up this could also be, I think a questions for Susan or Allison. Maybe we can start with the residing in San Francisco question 1st, to do folks need to reside in San Francisco in order to be able to apply.
Um, we have not restricted it to San Francisco.
Um, and then the 2nd, question on this, maybe for Alison is also maybe for Susan, is when we're talking about a strong connection to a community, how are we sort of understanding that how would that show up? And how is that being defined? And then specifically, if someone has knowledge about community or specific history, how would they sort of demonstrate that.
In the application.
I'll ask my colleagues to correct me if I misrepresent this. But I think we were looking particularly looking for people who've had not only were a member of a particular community, but ideally had again, because we're kind of looking for again, this evidence of.
Community engagement had members of organizations or community groups or advocacy, anything that you might have done. That demonstrates not only membership, but kind of a civic engagement.
But with the community, that's.
I think we just, I think we just lost a little bit of your audio there, Susan, but, um, maybe Alison did you have anything you wanted to add to that?
Right I think, you know, it's it's not necessarily an absolute membership. I, in certain cases, if you participate.
Uh, I think participation is important again, showing that you have an interest in this, that your, how you would describe your connections to the community is is important that we were trying to be as open as possible in terms of, of, of, of what.
That means in the sense of, you may not actually serve on a board, but you've you attend all the meetings or you give him a comment or you, you know, there's there is a depth of of participation along those lines. If anyone wants to elaborate on that.
Um, I think that was it unless unless Sandra or Susan, if you had further.
Comments or weekend my my think the only thing I thought about that is from what us have showed in terms of the application that's your opportunity. That's why we had although it's a limit of 300 words you're able to define your own connection in those.
Phases so we definitely encourage you all to explain and provide the information that you that supports your connection as well.
Cool. Thank you. Um, a couple of nitty gritty questions. These are mostly numbers things. So I think this might be an, an, on Allison.
So we're wondering here 2 questions that have showed up are around the time commitment. So do we have a sense of how those 40 hours over 4 months are going to be divided in terms of how many meetings versus not? And then similarly around the 500 dollars stipend, is that a stipend that is sort of like a.
There could be more that is offered or is that the amount that is allocated per committee member?
Sure, so 1st off, we anticipate approximately 7 to 8 meetings that would be 4 to 5 meetings that are committing meetings. And then a minimum of 3 give or take.
Uh, give or take give 3 community meetings so it's, it's we anticipate the work taking place in a meeting setting and then we also anticipate there being some homework involved in this process. And so that's that's what adds up to the, to the 40 hours. So, I think we allocated.
I mean, roughly 3 hours for a meeting, and then some homework time in there as well, they're scheduling a group. This large is going to be a challenge. And so that, in terms of what that's going to look like, when the meetings are actually going to take place, we are looking for full participation. So.
We don't have that quite dialed in yet, but yeah, hopefully that answers that question and then in regards to the, to the stipend, that is the budget that we have currently and in terms of limitations on it, I think I mentioned has allowed by law that's in reference to.
Uh, you know, whether or not say, for example, a person who is on the committee, if, for example, is also a city employee city employees are not allowed to receive stipends like this. So that's it's not that it's capped necessarily. But that's the budget that we have.
Great. Thanks. Allison.
Um, so, uh, there's some other questions that have shown up here generally speaking around the idea of conflicts of interest. Um, and so I would like to address that. Um, so I'm gonna read just a few of these. So, we have a sense of what is what is being requested by folks. So 1 of them says, would participation in the advisory committee. So, this is 1 about.
Opportunities in general right would participation in the advisory committee lead to other opportunities to serve on ongoing boards groups committees. Right? So that's 1 part of it. Another part of it is what are considerations regarding conflict of interest for artists who currently have, or will apply to acetate sculpture potentially in the future. And then, sort of the last version is.
There's a similar 1 would participation on the preclude an arts organization from creating slash, facilitating a new monument or memorial in San Francisco. So to put that into 2 camps, right? We're wondering about, are there limitations by virtue of either, by virtue of an individual being involved in this committee, in terms of how they could engage with the arts Commission, in terms of artistry in the future.
Um, and then also we're wondering how, if, if this could potentially lead to participation in other opportunities boards groups committees um, I think this might be a Susan.
Question 1st, the.
Yes, it's hard to see what a conflict of interest would be here being that as the city defines it. I mean, there's no, there's no money involved. We're not handing out money. We're not. These are recommendations that this would be like, any serving on any panel for the arts commission.
Uh, there's, uh, it would be hard to imagine that any member of that of the panel is related to any of the, the artists sculptures that we would be considering or who they.
Addicted and, like I say, there's no formula or benefit financially in any way. So those are the 2 major conflict of interest that the city uses. So, anyway, in answer to those 2 questions about whether artists in any way be prohibited from.
I'm participating in future calls. Absolutely not. And the same with the organizations and then the 1st, what was the 1st, 1.
Was it lead to other things? Yeah.
Well, my.
I, I don't know.
anything's possible.
Well, I don't think I can answer that question.
Um, lovely so, other things that we are wanting to know, there is another technical question here and I'm going to leave some of the bigger ones sort of, towards the end. Um, technical questions about, uh, is it safe to.
Soon a week, we got answered that question already. Sorry Nancy does it have to be 1 individual community member or can organizations apply or have 1 to 2 delegates to ensure consistent participation really? Here I'll take this. 1 is as is that we're really looking for this to be individual applications. So it is possible that, for instance, multiple folks from the same organization could apply.
But the application itself will be considered on the merit of that individual person and how they would, how they would sort of be able to contribute in a collaborative and community, based way to the, to the advisory committee. I don't know if anyone else has anything they wanted to add to that, but I think that answers that 1.
Um, and so there's, there's something, there's something else here around, let's see around, anticipated date for the committee to begin work that we understand it to be around April. 2021 is the sort of ideal that's also.
Kind of, you know, the capacity of being able to get the consultant in place and other parts of the process that are, that are needed for that. And so now, kind of wanting to move a little bit into some sort of bigger, slightly more existential questions around around the purpose of around the, the committee itself. So, the 1st thing here is around the.
Resulting recommendations will they apply only to the evaluation of existing monuments and memorials in the collection, or to the possible commission of new public, monuments and memorials this is probably and Allison or Susan question.
Yeah, I, I would say that they are, would be applying to in both. In other words.
Where we're looking to establish not only criteria by which we will evaluate existing monuments, but with slight adjustments, be the guidelines for future future monuments that would be considered. My hope is.
Eventually these would be adopted by the board of Supervisors, because many of the proposals are monuments actually, go to the board supervisors. 1st, and this would give them a guidelines in terms of considering whether a proposed monument is in keeping with the guide with, with these guidelines. So, I think these guidelines will have.
Um, uh, not only looking backward, but looking forward to.
Great Alison. Do you have anything you wanted to add to.
Susan exactly what Susan said in terms of the initial focus is on the existing works as we take a look about what is on display and why in public space in San Francisco. But of course, this will carry forward to future decisions.
The bulk of monuments memorials in the city are gifts to the city the city sort of rarely commissions them themselves. And so, and I'm talking, like, 90% 95% of this list are gifts. And so, in terms of what Susan's talking about, in regards to the board of Supervisors being involved in to.
Take the next step and looking forward around what is and the guidelines and criteria for future monuments. I definitely see that being a charge of this group as well.
Great there's a question here that I think I can answer, which is why is this a committee and not a Taskforce considering that it has limited time and scope.
The anticipation that a committee may be brought back in the future in this case, we're here borrowing a lot of language from sort of what has happened in other sorts of monument advisory committees around the country. So, for instance, the, the 1 in New York was also referred.
2 of them, they.
Committee and so, in that case, there isn't necessarily an understanding.
About whether or not, this would come back in the future, but rather we're sort of looking to the models that have existed in other parts of the city and in other parts of the country. Excuse me in other cities that have used this phrasing unless Allison or Susan have anything else to add I can I think that's.
Just to say exactly that a nomenclature to a certain.
Sent also this isn't a legislative body. It is purely advisory in that sense. And so it's not it's an unfunded charge for the mayor not a legislated 1 just to get into the weeds.
With, uh.
Other sort of thing around here was if there were case studies, that would be because that was something that was mentioned Allison, that there would be a possibility of case studies and I know that draws on the process. That was similar to what happened in New York where they developed specific kind of criteria, and then apply them to particular case studies. Would that be the committee doing that kind of work? Or would that be in collaboration with an external organization?
In this case, potentially in the consultant.
That's a good question. So if you look into the scope document, that's on the website. We talk about monuments that came down as a result of protests over the summer in 2020. we anticipate that. Those monuments would be looked at 1st, as a function of this process. And maybe.
As a case study, in terms of yes, that would be something again to reference New York's process a little bit. In terms of the community engagement process. The committee, their committee heard a lot of information and concern from different community.
These, so we can anticipate, perhaps there are things that we don't know about that are affecting communities, and we want to hear from them themselves that could inform that process. We just wanted to say that it can be helpful as an exercise as you're developing criteria for evaluation to actually have some.
Real life case studies to apply those to see how that works through. I think we're talking about not just removal, but we're talking about potential relocation. We're talking about contextualization or talking, you know, there are a lot of avenues here. And so we're hoping that a case study will help eliminate.
For people and help explain the criteria and show it working in a real manner and in terms of the consultancy assisting with that. Yes. I mean, I think facilitating the excuse. I'm able to be able to speak to this as well facilitating that community process in terms of the logistics also potentially integrating some other.
Process is along the way that it's a little bit to be determined at this point.
Um, there's a couple of other questions here that are about logistics. Um, how many members of the advisory committee will there be? We anticipate between from 11 to 15 and then there was another question about where the meetings would be in person. So, in this case, we're anticipating at the moment that these will all be virtual meetings. It's hard to know.
Kind of depending on what will happen with with whether or not community meetings or other types of meetings later on in the process in person. But for the moment, we anticipate that they're going to be done online and then there's another question. This is maybe a Susan or Alison question from Marilyn from you guys, which is how important is it to be a trained.
Classical artist in terms of judging the quality of the monument, and there's maybe something to tease out there about, you know, us focusing on criteria, rather than sort of thinking about the quality potentially of specific monuments. If either of you would like to comment.
Well, I, I think that we have, um, it's kind of a hard 1.
To to to answer, it's why we have such a broad kind of range of skills that people there might be some people that apply that are have a long history in the arts and training and others are more child was saying.
Of, uh, art enthusiasts, or are familiar with the monuments and how they make them feel and they're, um, you know, they're, they're coming at it from a more personal, a personal point of view. And I think both are both are valid. So, again, that's that's.
That's what we're talking about about this kind of balanced group of people not everybody on this panel has to be an expert in every, in every field. They, they might have more broad general knowledge and a lot of things, or maybe just some specific knowledge. And only 1 field, and but they're the only person that we have.
That can speak to that. So.
Um, Allison, did you have anything you wanted to add to that?
I think I think Susan got it.
And, yeah, just the, just the short of it is to say that whatever it is that a person feels like they can bring to the advisory committee, you know, we've tried to put those specific opportunities for folks to expand on that in the applications. That would really want to see you in some of the narrative responses, and the 300 word responses that folks would describe whatever is there. However, they feel like they can contribute in whatever way.
They're coming at it from a sort of like, artist training perspective from a personal perspective, whatever that is to just document that so that, you know, folks are able to understand how that, how that functions. We have, let's see some other questions here. We're getting to the we're getting to the bottom actually of this list, which is exciting because we're coming up on time shortly.
Is given the scope of the committee, how much actual impact do we anticipate that these recommendations will have on present and future monuments?
Possibly also as Susan or Allison.
Question, I think it will have substantial impact. It will have guide the commission in terms of evaluating the future of current monuments and certainly, certainly those that came down. And I probably, I think most significantly.
Guide us moving forward. I mean, the past is the past, but we're moving forward and so I think it will have a great deal.
Um, there's a question also of if there is an online catalog or sort of like a physical or not physical, but I guess online sort of documented place where, where folks could look at the 80 or so monuments from memorials that are in question. I know that, you know, open access has a category categorization of.
Kind of public already across the city, but I don't know Susan Allison if there's a specific place that, that folks can go to visit and think about some of these ones that are going to be under.
Consideration? Yes, well, so there's on our website under view public art. Uh, there is a list under monuments. If you go to our website.
Into them into the section that I mentioned earlier in the monuments and memorials area, landing page, there's an epic queue document and that document has the links to the list of the 98 monuments that I mentioned and earlier and it's a cursory sort of list right? It's.
An image it tells you where it is, and it tells you who made it, it's not a deeper dive yet, but it is at least somewhere to start to take a look at the pieces in within the civic art collection. Right? So this is our focus, because that's their, its commissions charge is the civic art collection. There are other monuments and memorials.
City potentially on private property that is not our, our, our jurisdiction, but yes, that list exists and this on our website.
Great. Um, marilyn's put another question in the chat. How many of these come from the 1915, Panama Pacific Expo? Um, I would specifically encourage you to drop that into an email and send it to our staff so that we can follow appropriately. That is something that.
Will require a little bit more research. So again, you can go to art dash info at f. Gov. Dot Oregon. That would be the best place to, um, to put that question for us. Um, short answer is there's a.
Um, and so there's only, I think 2 or so more that we need to get to here. So, 1 of them is about an emphasis on honoring local activists, such as Charlotte brown. Those are specific, uh, incidents here. But is there a way that we can concentrate on.
Local hero is various races and ethnicities as a possible sort of as a possible sort of guideline that could potentially come out of this advisory committee.
Well, I would say this is not about thinking of what, and who is going to be honored in terms of specifics in the future. 1 might be looking at criteria for the kinds of things.
As opposed to specific qualities characteristics that 1 would judge a proposed mind, because we don't know who will come up with a proposed memorial in the future.
But we need to be able to look at these proposed memorial with these criteria of the kinds of things that we want. I hope that answers the questions.
Cool. Thanks, Susan. So we have, I think 2 more things, uh, wanting to name and then we'll wrap up. So 1, and I think this is.
Alison question, does the city have an existing D, assessing process for public art? And if not will this and form such a process and if it does, how would that be included for assessment?
So the city absolutely has a an excellent.
Utilizing the past for other other pieces in the collection it is also on our website, it's in the public art guidelines, and I'm happy to share that link if it would be helpful. If it's in a section of our public art, and our enrichment guidelines goes into great debt.
Hell about the type of product, like, what entails the accession from the collection and for others, the session is just removal from the collection. It's a fancy word for that. But yes so the short answer is yes, we have a policy in place. Yes, I also anticipate taking a look at those guidelines as a.
This process and potentially modifying taking into account this criteria That'll be developed by this group. Yeah, hopefully answer that. I don't know Susan. Let's add on to that.
Yeah, well, I think that's would be. My answer is.
Well, lovely last.
There's 1 final numbers question. What is the budget for? The consultant?
Right now that budget is 25000. okay.
Brilliant, um, we have gotten through them all, which is amazing. We had 3 minutes to spare a few pointers. Uh, just to sort of wrap up.
Here, unfortunately, I don't think we're going to have time to get to that question. I would please encourage you again if you have further questions, including the 1 that you just put into the chat is to email it to art info at access. Gov. Dot org. We will be collecting a lot of those, and as many of the ones that were asked here, and including them in the frequently asked questions, the link to, which is, is.
There you can also find it commission dot org, and those will continue to be populated as this process is ongoing as questions continue to come in from community and from the public. And we will make sure that that the questions that were asked here are also incorporated there as well. And I think that's the 1 thing. The other.
Thing to mention again is the deadline for the application is March 1st at 1159 PM. Please feel free to spread that and pass that along to the folks who might not have been on this call. But, who, you know, in your specific networks, who you think might be somebody really interested or or.
For to potentially apply and potentially participate in this advisory committee and I'm going to pass it to Sandra to close this out.
Thanks us. Um, I think, I hope all this information was useful for those. Um, I do want to reiterate as well as that. We want this committee to present as many of the communities as we can for this process as well as we want folks to know that there will.
Public meeting process, and we'll try to meet folks where they're at maybe not in person, but we will adjust schedule so that we can get the maximum cooperation and participation of the communities that that we're we hope to give voice to or that we can hear from. And so again, all the information right is here we are available.
To all please, just email us and we will update the frequently asked questions as as time goes. But we, thank you please pass it on the application to anyone, you know, and we will provide as much information as we can throughout this process. That's it. Thank you. Have a great day.